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Wee buckle and weight
« on: April 12, 2017, 08:40:11 PM »
Out today on a friend's permission and turned up this little buckle (22mm across) and a crude lead weight (25mm at greatest diameter).  Does anyone know the approximate age of these items?
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Re: Wee buckle and weight
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2017, 09:47:26 PM »
Two very nice finds Howard, well done.
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Re: Wee buckle and weight
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2017, 10:39:28 PM »
About ages wi' Billy? 😊

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Re: Wee buckle and weight
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2017, 12:01:59 AM »
Can't help with age but nice items, well done  :laugh:
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Re: Wee buckle and weight
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2017, 10:20:24 AM »
Not quite that old Bob.

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Re: Wee buckle and weight
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2017, 02:14:41 PM »
...nice finds Howard. I think the weight will most likely date from medieval to post medieval (1200-1700), as it is very difficult to identify the age of lead and especially weights as they were in use from the Roman period right through to the Georgian era. However, there is a reasonable match on PAS that indicates the date range I gave above: https://finds.org.uk/database/artefacts/record/id/99416

...the 'buckle' is again a tricky one, as it looks more like an annular brooch. However, I would think that the buckle description is probably more accurate due to the shoulders that are apparent on it and the shaping of it at the thick end of the tongue, which may be the remains of an integral plate - common on this type of buckle. I am also not sure if I can see the remnants of decoration or not? The nearest I could get was again medieval with a wider date range of (1275-1425) and it would be called a copper alloy circular single loop buckle (with integral plate), which are not common finds. The use of these types is thought to be for spurs and a drawing of an example close to yours is below (numbers 31 & 32). However, it could also be what is called a buckle brooch, but I have not been able to find a close example of these to show you.

...I would suggest that you send a picture to the TTU, just in case it turns out to be a form of annular brooch, buckle brooch or indeed a rare type of circular loop buckle. 

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Re: Wee buckle and weight
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2017, 03:17:54 PM »
Terrific info! 

Look like great wee finds Howard.

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« Last Edit: April 13, 2017, 08:53:49 PM by Uncle Bob »

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Re: Wee buckle and weight
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2017, 08:35:41 PM »
Thanks Derek, that is very helpful information.
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Re: Wee buckle and weight
« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2017, 08:53:22 PM »
Couple of nice finds Howard, well done.👍