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gasman

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« on: November 07, 2019, 03:02:30 PM »
Hi ,need help with an ID this is not a detecting find. A friend found it whilst clearing a family members house. It is approx 19mm in diam 3,8mm  thick and weighs 7 gm. There is a lot of detail so is a real or a modern copy ? and lastly is there any value to it.

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« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2019, 08:44:52 PM »

 I would say genuine, and a republican coin.

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« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2019, 10:03:08 AM »
I think it could be a copy. I purchased something very similar on a trip to Pompeii years ago.

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« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2019, 10:20:35 AM »
i think it is a copy as well if it is bronze .usually a touch of green .but if not excellent condition .i am no expert.

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« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2019, 07:41:50 PM »

 It could be a copy John, I am only going on my own finds. I have only ever found three republican coins, one bronze, and two silver. The bronze coin is the same size, and weight as the one shown, but a different emperor. Looking through my best roman bronzes, all British found, and the lot I photographed show no signs of green, coming from nice light soil in Lincolnshire.

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« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2019, 09:21:18 PM »
hi bill i know where you are coming from .especially lincolnshire etc .but i know there are fantastic copies nowadays with anything .maybe gasman will tell us where he got it from but if it is the real thing it is a beauty .good hunting bill.

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« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2019, 02:38:27 PM »
Hi John unfortunately no information is available for the coin.My friend found when clearing his fathers house.

There is no history of detecting in that family.

I am currently leaning towards the Killie Dee idea.

Thanks for the help will update if an further information is unearthed.

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« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2019, 02:44:52 PM »
sorry jim .misread the first part of your story .hope you are keeping fine.

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« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2019, 11:10:46 AM »
Managed to I.D the coin see below. After looking on various sites, cant't make up my mind if it is real or a copy.  Will accept for its beauty no matter what age.  :)


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Probus, Summer 276 - September 282 A.D., Roman Provincial Egypt
Elpis was the Greek equivalent of the Roman Spes, the goddess of hope. She was traditionally defined as "the last goddess" (Spes, ultima dea), meaning that hope is the last resource available to men. Elpis personified hope for good harvests, and for children, and was invoked at births, marriages, and other important times.
RP89878. Billon tetradrachm, Dattari 5533; Milne 4531; Curtis 1881; Geissen 3128; BMC Alexandria p. 313, 2417, F, nice portrait, slight off center, Alexandria mint, weight 6.283g, maximum diameter 21.60mm, die axis 0o, 29 Aug 276 - 28 Aug 277 A.D.; obverse AK M AVP ΠPOBOC CEB, laureate and cuirassed bust right; reverse Elpis standing left, flower in extended right hand, raising skirt with left hand, date B / L (year 2) left; $38.00


https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?param=89878q00.jpg&vpar=745&zpg=97414&fld=https://www.forumancientcoins.com/Coins2/

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« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2019, 09:23:10 PM »
 Well done on identifying the coin Jim,  I will stick with genuine.




 Bill
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